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BeitragVerfasst am: 17/2/2006, 12:19  Titel:  Xooma Antworten mit ZitatNach untenNach oben

Hallo Bierschlucker!
Hab vorhin das falsche Bild eigefügt und deshalb ein neues Thema eröffnet.

In einer Packung sind 6 Portionen zu je 1 gramm.

X2O Inhaltsstoffe
Highly Active Coral Calcium 947 mg
Magnesium 34 mg
Trace Minerals
(Including Chromium, Sodium & Potassium) 14 mg
L-absorbic Acid 5 mg
Silver Trace

Hergestellt wird das ganze in Japan (Okinawa) für Xooma Worldwide.


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The following answers to Q&A's on Coral Calcium Water, how it relates to pH issues and to human health generally, provided by Mr Bill Downs. Mr Downs is a phD biochemist and a paid consultant for Xooma Worldwide.


Are there any papers which address the relevence of pH considerations (alkaline vs acidic) in supplements and/or dietary choices?

[Comment: Yes, but a PubMed literature search is required. However, there are some text books on the issue, one of which is referenced below. Most of the information on pH in general discussions (especially among MLM distributors) by default must omit the elaborate (and beautiful) details regarding the complex systems and biochemistry of pH compartmentalization, maintenance and the mechanisms of electroneutrality in the process, which would greatly exceed the confines of a succinct answer. Given that, I hope the following answers provide sufficient information to merit your confidence.]:


1) How do we know that coral calcium (ionic calcium) is quickly absorbed into the body itself?


[Comment: Based on independent lab analysis, we know the properties of the water are significantly changed by virtue of the ionization resulting from the “add a sachet, shake & wait” (hot shot) method. The ORP value is significantly improved, the pH (~10.0) is elevated and the surface tension of the water is altered. Any one of these factors in and of itself is not necessarily a validating or accurate indication of a potential health benefit. For example, adding lye to water can alkalize the pH, but have deleterious effects on the body. The combination of at least 2 of the factors (one of them being ORP in the case of free ion assessment) is mandatory.



The effects on blood cells provide corroborating evidence of the benefits of these changes via Darkfield and Ultra Darkfield Microscopy. For the most part, these “routine” procedures are not under the scrutiny of qualified research scientists (which would be beneficial). However, over the years, some MDs and PhDs have also observed these procedures (and subsequently became involved in this type of evaluation and the use of HTN Coral) and confirm the validity of such procedures where adequate and consistent controls & methods are applied. There are a number of different experienced “health professionals” who have been administering these procedures for years and have continued to improve their education in perfecting the analytical accuracy of the tests and the interpretation of results (as with the Ultra Darkfield).



The “countless observations” from these live blood cell studies provide a substantial amount of consistent evidence in “before and after” analysis, that following the “hot shot” method of coral administration, the ions get into the tissues as evidenced by the noticeable beneficial effects within 15 minutes. By the way, this is not possible from any “ionically bound” very alkaline mineral complex (i.e. Ca carbonate, Ca sulphate, Ca phosphate, etc.) that must require digestive tract involvement. While Ca hydroxyapatite (assumed bovine source) offers a full spectrum of minerals, some valuable peptides and nucleotides, etc., it is an alkaline substrate that requires extensive acidification in the stomach to ionize the minerals and transfer ions to other “absorption proteins” (ion exchange), for example like metallothionine, et al. This transfer process determines whether the transport is active or passive, portal vein or mid-GI tract transport, etc. In that the free ions are “suspended” in the “treated water” that has properties now more closely resembling body fluid (than untreated water) the free ions are less susceptible to forming spontaneous (re)bonds with other ions (but that does eventually begin to happen if left unconsumed for over 20 minutes). However, once in the mouth and throat, the free ions can be rapidly absorbed, the effects of which are noted in the aforementioned Darkfield and Ultra Darkfield microscope analysis. There are also a multitude of reports by individuals having taken the coral, many for serious maladies, regarding notable improvement in a number of physiological parameters. Certainly a ~30 % placebo response could be expected. But, some of the “testimonials” supported by written medical reports indicate quite remarkable, substantial and sustained improvements. (Enough on that for this answer).]



Is no active transport or conversion to hydroxyapatite form required first? What percentage of the calcium is absorbed?

[Comment: virtually 100% of the “free ions” are absorbed. However, there are no known deleterious effects from the “free ions.” Problems with minerals are due to metabolic nutrient status, homeostatic demands, the forms of mineral complexes consumed, and the availability (or lack thereof) of important co-factors to support metabolism and subsequent metabolic sequela. For instance: in a calcium deficient state fostered by generally inadequate Ca intake, the body, in a stepwise fashion, takes extraordinary measures to cannibalize calcium from its own tissues (non-critical fluids first, then soft tissues [like muscles], and finally bone [chronically leading to osteoporosis and the like], robbing buffers, creating acidic conditions in those tissues and putting them at risk for pathological acidic events. By the way, the minerals cannibalized from bone present some extraordinary metabolic challenges in ionizing those minerals (minerals in the blood exist as free ions) with a minimum of consequence (i.e. kidney stones, calcium deposits, etc.). It is a burdensome process “robbing Peter to pay Paul.” Given this “challenged” state of being, taking inorganic mineral salts (i.e. Ca carbonate, Ca phosphate, etc.), especially in a population predisposed to ahydrochloria, imposes additional burdens on the body and amplifies pathological progression.



2) I understand the basic concept of acid environment versus alkaline environment in the body, and that blood must remain at a pH 7.35 to 7.45 for us to live. Too many hydrogen ions ( negative charge ) in an acidic environment bind with the available oxygen ions, and essentially rob the body of oxygen , also creating a favourable environment for microbes to thrive.



[Comment: The primary problem with an acidic environment is not too little oxygen (as in “robbed” oxygen), but too few intracellular alkalizing buffers (hemoglobin, Ca, Mg, K, etc.) to facilitate healthy oxidative respiration (burning of glucose for energy) as opposed to compensatorially mandated (and much less efficient) glycolysis in the form of fermentation. The lack of intracellular buffers (promoting intracellular acidosis) renders the oxygen relatively unusable. The increasing amount of unused oxygen ions (in the more acidic environment) are now much more prone to undesirable free radical transformation and behavior (due to excess oxygen burden). This is the more favorable “acidic” environment for unhealthy and opportunistic microbial growth. By the way, the much less efficient fermentation process requires an exponentially higher amount of substrate (glucose) to make energy. This less efficient process produces more wastes, such as lactic acid, which perpetuates the acidic environment, further and eventually promoting “measurable” pathological progression.]



Are there any papers which show that the introduction of calcium ions , in addition to creating an alkalinity within the body, also allow for more free oxygen ions , or limit the hydrogen ions in the body?



[Comment: pH system regulation is one of the more complex and least understood areas of medical science.]



How many microbes exist that are anaerobic as opposed to aerobic, and therefore would benefit from an acidic environment?



[Comment: As you know, there are indigenous anaerobic bacteria in the gut that perform beneficial functions. However, there are also aerobic bacteria in the gut that produce lactic acid, where it is needed. While the gut is important in the overall scheme of things, the issue of pH regulation and acidosis really pertains to the intracellular fluid compartment. It is to this area that most of my answers are directed. For additional information and orientation, please read “Understanding Acid-Base” by Benjamin Abelow, M.D. (Used as a Harvard medical text at the time I did the research.)]



3) How much of the coral calcium water are you supposed to consume on a daily basis?



[Comment: 60 ounces per day (A 20 oz serving TID w/ 2 bags of coral per serving) will provide a better than average effect in most cases. Severe issues should require greater aggressiveness.)



Is there any evidence of or method to determine how and when the human body has returned to an optimal level of alkalinity?



Comment: Not directly. It remains to the art of medical evaluation to assess a number of factors. Saliva pH is at best a “weather vane” indicator in the case of more severe acidotic maladies. Acidic saliva, being a non-critical body fluid, does not impose severe metabolic consequences (which is why it is a reasonable source for “buffer theft”). A comprehensive assessment of the evidence (and/or symptoms) of acidosis is mandatory. Arterial blood gases (while somewhat indicative of extracellular pH) and drawing arterial or venous blood are woefully inadequate methods of assessing intracellular pH at any one time. Free radical load, viral load, bacterial load, LDH, C - reactive protein, Homocysteine levels, Alkaline Phosphatase, parathyroid hormone levels, Nitric Oxide, Insulin, blood glucose levels, aberrant glycosylation (such as in glycosylated hemoglobin) and other blood chemistry analyses are helpful when factored against the symptoms of chronic pathologies (like inflammatory disorders). Enough for here for now. I hope this is helpful.]



Where could I get more scientific info on this particular product?

[Our scientific information is mostly chemical analysis. Owing to the massive number of counterfeit knockoff products and misinformation in the market, it is not likely that any commercial entity will fund significant research for which it has NO HOPE of getting a proprietary market advantage, or a return on investment, let alone even recover the research costs. Important research will now have to come out of independent university level institutions with almost purely academic interests (and no hope of any commercial bounty). This is truly regrettable.

I believe this gives you a clear understanding of the science behind our product.
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